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Don't bother sending me emails, I have no interest with consorting with you at all. As long as you're sucking up over at AZU you're persona non grata as far as I'm concerned. I'm not a member of RSOL and do not participate in anything they do. I have my own reasons for not working with them, but I'm expecting them to draft a clear statement denouncing NAMBLA and related pro-pedo groups before I'll ever lift a finger to help them. Sorry, but unlike you, I'm not going to denounce a group just because some AZU troll says I should, especially someone who only has an axe to grind. Get over it already! Sometimes cetain people in the RSO community get on my nerves too but you're hurting a lot of people that are not involved with your asinine feud. By the way, I can't believe you honestly believe AZU gives a rat's ass about you. You're just a sock puppet, ready to be used and abused. Derek "The Fallen One" Logue Webmaster, www.oncefallen.com ReFORM Radio, http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/29032 -- 2nd & 4th Saturdays 9:05 Eastern "Through Wisdom and Knowledge Shall We Rise From The Ashes" --- On Fri, 11/27/09, john joneson
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It wouldn't matter to you if he did denounce them publicly.
ReplyDeleteAll you do is rant, and make little to no sense. You don't do your homework either, because if you did, you would have seen that I, myself, resigned from SOSEN Staff, (not because of the idiotic charges you are making), and I demanded my name be removed from the signatory list of RSOL when they didn't answer my inquiries into their possible connection with NAMBLA to suit me.
Again, just because I don't believe that treating registered sex offenders the way we are in this country today is appropriate, let alone productive, that doesn't mean I am a member of or support NAMBLA in any way, shape, form, or fashion. One does not equate to the other. As much as you might like to believe.
If you are truly an ex offender, you should know that those people at AZU are making an ass out of you. Because they simply don't believe, no matter what you do or say to prove otherwise, that a sex offender can BE an "ex". They don't believe you CAN be a productive member of society, that you will ever be worth a damn again.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Go ahead, have at it with me, I honestly don't care, you don't bother me one bit. If I can keep your attention on me, you're leaving someone else alone. That's my sole purpose here.
Well, actually, Derek has not denounced the RSOL. Oh, he did so in an email but Derek's website still links to the RSOL & the RSOL links to his website. Derek is still two faced.
ReplyDeleteSo you demanded your name be removed but you still associate with the RSOL don't you? All of the RSO advocate groups have direct ties with the RSOL & yet both you and Derek still associate with people who associate with the RSOL. Ironic isn't it.
"Because they (AZU) simply don't believe, no matter what you do or say to prove otherwise, that a sex offender can BE an "ex". They don't believe you CAN be a productive member of society, that you will ever be worth a damn again."
Actually they do. Stitches has said repeatedly, that not every offender belongs on the registry or remains a threat to society. You would know that if you weren't being fed false lies by Sosen idiots.
"I demanded my name be removed from the signatory list of RSOL when they didn't answer my inquiries into their possible connection with NAMBLA to suit me."
Thats it? No public denouncement for the world to see? Is that all your going to do? Do you think remaining silent will help?
If you continue to work along side advocates who work along side with the RSOL, Then you are indeed an NAMBLA enabler. Ironic indeed.
"I'll ever lift a finger to help them"
If your going to talk it, how about walking it?
Justus (Jackie Sparling) said this YEARS ago:
ReplyDelete"As SO Clears Chief Operations Officer, let me assure you that while we in no way support any groups such as NAMBLA, or anyone who believes that having sex with pre-pubescent children is right, we do not delineate between each "sex crime" and determine which person or person(s) we wish to repeal these laws for."
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"You don't do your homework either, because if you did, you would have seen that I, myself, resigned from SOSEN Staff, (not because of the idiotic charges you are making), and I demanded my name be removed from the signatory list of RSOL when they didn't answer my inquiries into their possible connection with NAMBLA to suit me."
ReplyDeleteJackie, I resigned from Sosen Staff and demanded that my name be removed from their membership list. Guess what? As soon as I voiced disagreement with your buddy Derek Logue, he declared that I was kicked out of Sosen as a spy, when everyone knows that Bronkv was the spy, and Derek even said so on the same blog he accused me on. He has lately taken to stating that I am looking at child pornography and various other lies because he knows that no one believed his bullshit about me being a spy. And he knows that I tell the truth, even if it's not a very comfortable truth. He is desperate to do whatever he can to keep RSO's from listening to me because the more they listen, the more they see that people like Derek are the real problem in RSO advocacy.
I don't know you, so I have nothing negative to say about you. And I'm glad that you have taken steps to disavow any affiliation with the NAMBLA front group known as RSOL.
I have many questions for you: How long do you think it will be before Derek Logue accuses you of being a spy and a vigilante? When will he accuse you of illegal activities when he sees that he can't silence you about RSOL?
I've now had a lot of communication with RSO's as well as Antis. I can say unequivocally that I've never been subject to the kind of harassment and vigilantism like what Derek has tried to do to me. And I can say that Antis are far more honest and honorable than any RSO extremist I've ever encountered. Derek complains that Antis post personal info. Then he does it to anyone who disagrees with him. Derek complains that Antis lie about RSO's, but he is the only one who has ever lied about me. Derek says that Antis are extremists and dangerous, yet I've been in relatively close communication with Stitches77 herself for over a year and not one bad thing has happened to me, even when I disagree with her. Derek pretends he is trying to help RSO's while he does everything in his power to hurt the public's view of RSO's at every opportunity. He is a disgusting blight on RSO advocacy, and you know it.
You recognize the harm caused by RSO's being unwittingly aligned with NAMBLA. What are your views on RSO's being aligned with disturbed lying stalkers like Derek Logue? Is it not a very bad thing for people like Derek to portray themselves as the "voice" of RSO's? Doesn't that only confirm to the public that all their worst fears about RSO's are true?
I know you've been involved in RSO activism for a long time. I am genuinely interested in your opinions on these things.
Nice response. Yeah, it was Cheryl Griffiths that invited Bronkv to "join" SOSEN Staff but we never hear Derek Logue accusing Cheryl of anything...Did Cheryl know Bronk was an anti? Cheryl was certainly engaged in a rage war over at SOSEN as the SOSEN COO-2nd in charge. Did Cheryl plot revenge & allow a Perverted Justice member to join staff "knowingly"? I cannot prove it but there is a possibility it is true. Derek refuses to pick on Cheryl because she would stomp his ass across the web! Now Static is kicking Derek's ass & he deserves it.
ReplyDeleteCheryl didn't know about Bronkv. The only people who were suspicious were me and Lobster. We had many conversations through pm trying to figure out a way to get real evidence that Bronk was the "spy." I posted a "Catch a Troll idea in Staff and Bronk's "traffic pattern" after that is what confirmed to me that he/she was the "mole." In the end, I decided I didn't really mind if Bronk was a spy because I thought we had nothing to hide at Sosen. I thought if an Anti could see into Staff, maybe they'd see that we had nothing to hide. I was wrong. There was plenty to hide- I just didn't know it at the time. Many people don't know it to this day. that's why I'm going to make sure everyone knows it by the middle of next week.... You'll see what I mean.
ReplyDeleteI can't wait to hear it. I have severe doubts about Cheryl though. She had no problem accusing tsand of bs that she knew was not true. Once you get back stabbed repeatedly, its hard to trust certain folks again. SOSEN cannot ever be trusted because of a few certain ill characters who lie and bury the truth. I doubt whatever new stuff you have to say, will surprise me when it comes to SOSEN. Nothing is beneath them.
ReplyDeleteI'm not defending Cheryl. I was just saying that she didn't know about Bronk. I really doubt anyone suspected anything besides me and Lobster.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure nothing I have to say will be a surprise to people who already know what Sosen and Derek Logue-types are about. The difference is that this time, EVERYONE is going to hear about it. You'll see what I mean.
I don't think she's seeing these comments. Is there a way to move them to the most recent post? I think she commented n it, so she'll probably be checking there.
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