Deflections with a "twist"

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami-dade/story/1165167.html?mi_pluck_action=comment_submitted&qwxq=51026#Comments_Container


So I decided to post some comments regarding this article and it wasn't long before the vipers started deflecting the truth and posting idiotic comments! Here are a few. See my additional comments at bottom:

Magister wrote on 07/31/2009 09:33:44 AM:

They fear the rats, the disease, going hungry, being violated for some simple infraction, vigilantes, and the future.
If they are staying under the bridge now because they want to make a statement,take a stand, against these residency restrictions that are belched straight out of hell and have been proven to cause more harm than good, they they are hero's. You see, there are many, many more bridges in Florida, swamps, woods, rest stops, and other places where homeless former sex offenders live. The JTC is just the tip of the iceberg.
The only REAL solution to this problem is to get rid of residency restrictions and put in place sensible no loitering zones.

MSLGWCEO wrote on 07/31/2009 09:07:16 AM:

"HELL No, WE WON'T GO" is their Mantra.

Their Spokes person is Mary Duval of www.rickyslife.xxx

MARY, MARY, MARY, MARY, MARY, MARY, MARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CFCWashington wrote on 07/31/2009 11:27:34 AM:

I hope you realize TSAND that I have pages of information on you. Your ISP address(s), email accounts, myspace accounts where you pretend to be a young woman, several of your account names, etc.
Did I mention that that information has been shared amongst all of the forums?

CFCWashington wrote on 07/31/2009 11:25:43 AM:

TSAND... All one has to do is read your posts. And not just the ones on your blogs, but all of the posts you've made on all of the different forums. When someone does that, your true depravity shines through. You sell yourself out to the highest bidder.

MSLGWCEO wrote on 07/31/2009 10:50:56 AM:

"Affiliations :
Mandatory: SOSEN members must not be part of NAMBLA, Boy Chat, Girl Chat or any such organization."


MSLGWCEO wrote on 07/31/2009 10:48:10 AM:
Tsand, you are a very unstable and hate filled person who doesn't take rejection very well. SOSEN has a disclaimer, disclaiming everything you say.


I post real facts and then I get ganged on and attacked! Magister (Cheryl Griffith) states what she thinks is the real "solution" is and that got me to thinking this morning WHY these RSO bridge dwellers refuse to move...its about getting the residency laws changed as Cheryl suggests. I think these bridge sex offenders are being used as "pawns" in order to get the residency laws changed. Such would make sense even after Ron Book has found BETTER housing locations and yet they refuse to move! That is why MSLGWCEO is so bent on attacking Ron Book and not encouraging the bridge dwellers to relocate.

CFCWashington then goes on a personal vendetta against me, talk about deflecting! Cant yall stick to the facts w/o the personal attacks? Nope, impossible. Yeah, I used to be a asshole I agree but now I am a different kind of asshole!

Get used to it.

sex offenders prefer to stay

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami-dade/story/1165167.html

But there is just one snag no one seemed to see coming: The sex offenders themselves are reluctant to leave their ramshackle abodes, no matter how deplorable their isolated existence has become.

Ron Book -- chairman of Miami-Dade's Homeless Trust and a victim's right's advocate -- is nevertheless marching forward on a mission to relocate the very people he once pledged to ostracize.

He has up to 18 possible units ready for them to move into and more to investigate.

But the causeway community isn't budging, at least for now.

"I'd rather stay here. This where they put me in the first place.''


Mr Book has located 18 places these sex offenders could move to and yet these vagrants resist! How stupid is that? Its like the panhandler standing on the street w/a sign "will work for food". You offer em a job but they turn you down cause they collect more $ just standing on the street corner. These sex offenders don't want to "better" themselves with proper housing, They want to squat under a bridge and say woe is me! This attitude is stupid and meaningless. We have spent years trying to get Mr Book to work with us and then these bridge dwelling sex offenders throw up road blocks and the work is for naught! Such utter stupidity. Lazy good for nothing bums. "Rickie" says "they put me (under the bridge) here". What an idiot. You willingly went there & now your offered real housing and your not interested? What a fucking shithead attitude. Stay under the bridge then. I will no longer help such an idiot who doesn't give a shit about bettering themselves! Real stupid.

National blitz: "Countdown"

Its coming. Soon I will start a national campaign targeting our Nation's leadership. I think its time to inform them about the pedophilia secret agenda over at RSOL/Reform Sex Offender Laws. I'm going to "name" names and provide evidence.

I thought the sex offender advocates like SOSEN, ROAR & RSOVA & SexOffenderIssues, would rise up and disassociate themselves from hanging with "pro pedophiles" but nope they refuse. I'm left wondering if the above mentioned groups weren't really in fact started by "pedophiles"? Well, it would certainly make sense due to their strong alliance with the RSOL whom has connections to NAMBLA/North American Man-Boy Love Association.

Its time. Let the countdown begin! I will start with West Virginia first.

Credits:

Z "Cave" Man

The TruthSeeker "scam"

http://weirdtalesradio.today.com/2008/09/29/chatscam/

NOTE: See comment section

I am going to issue a retraction and state that Cheryl Griffith is not the author or writer at the above link. I offer a humble apology and am willing to admit that I was wrong! I just found out who the real author is and it is not Cheryl. Again, I apologize. I am not above saying that I was in the wrong here!




The "TruthSeeker" blog was started by none other than Cheryl Griffith, former SOSEN CEO and owner of the Uncomfortable Truth website. I incidentally came across this article recently. I found it very "untruthful". Here it is in its entirety:

The “Boy Chat” Scam

Some cult groups are trying to defame people in our civil rights circle by fraudulently associating our screennames with a bizarre group called “Boy Chat”. Personally, I have never even heard of this group / website until a YouTube cyber-stalker brought it up in his ignorant message. Apparently, they are some sort of child exploitation bunch. However, I have heard by some that groups like Boy Chat were created by vigilante cultists for the sole purpose of defaming those who support reforming the registry.

Also, there is word that these cultists snap screenshots of chat conversations and doctor up the image to make it appear someone they despise was involved in an inappropriate chat. This or, the cultist logged in with someone else’s screenname and actually had the conversation his or her self. This deception is very easy to accomplish given the proper software.

Let me state flat out that none of us who support civil rights are in no way associated with groups like Boy Chat or any other sick group. This is simply another scam by cultists who may have created these groups to begin with. We support the reform of bad sex offender laws that unjustly punish men, women, and children who do not belong on public registries, especially since many are non-violent and have families of their own to provide for. We strongly support the prevention of sexual abuse, something these misguided laws do not.

So again, just use common logic when you hear about such ludicrous statements from people who prefer to hide their true identities and who may themselves be responsible for what garbage they try to throw at civil rights activists. It’s quite concerning when you think about it.

I've got news for you Cheryl, Boy Chat is definitely a group of PEDOPHILES. BC was not started by "vigilante cultists" as you may of heard. Then you start defending these pedophiles accusing the cultists of "doctoring" screen shots cause you "heard" such elsewhere. Maybe true, maybe not true. I know of your great hatred of these cultists and I wonder if it isn't your hatred mouthing off here? Then you say:

Let me state flat out that none of us who support civil rights are in no way associated with groups like Boy Chat or any other sick group.

And you know this for a true fact? Well, I got news for you, I know there once was a "ZMan" member at Boy Chat giving advice to a pedophile who was arrested in a PJ sting. I also know that "Mary Duval" once joined Boy Chat in order to get advice about her son. You know Mary don't you? She is the SOSEN CEO.

I once gave advice to a Boy Chat member who contacted me by email re AZU. I didn't seek him out and nor have I ever joined Boy Chat or Girl Chat or any other pro pedophile group because I certainly do not approve. Frankly, I hope they all end up getting arrested for molesting children. Throw the key away! I'm sure there are "other" SOSEN & ROAR members who are secret pedophiles operating under a deceptive agenda other than yours Cheryl, yet you fail to factually research "Boy Chat" and the what & why Boy Chat was set up for. It may seem like I am berating you and I am to an extent but if your going to use the word "Truth" in your blog name, Then you need to be accurate and truthful, putting aside you bias. Associating with the RSOL-Reform Sex Offender Laws advocacy group kind of rains of your "prevention" of child abuse claim because the RSOL is full of Boy Chat pedophile Members!

Please wise up. Do it for the "children", Cheryl! Do NOT associate with known pedophiles.

Ron Book: "American Hero"

http://www.miamiherald.com/486/story/1151865.html

Facing growing criticism over 70 registered sex offenders living in squalid conditions under a Julia Tuttle Causeway bridge, Miami-Dade officials and homeless advocates say they are working to relocate them to housing.

In the first step, eight camp dwellers will be moved to a private apartment building in South Miami-Dade in coming days, and officials are looking for a bigger place for the remaining people to be housed, said Ronald Book, chairman of Miami-Dade's Homeless Trust, who is leading the effort.

``Everybody is moving in a positive direction, but we're not where we need to be,'' Book said of the drive toward a permanent solution for the encampment, the target of mounting criticism at home and unflattering portrayals across the world.

It took much effort but a select few individuals (myself included) have been communicating with Mr Book the past few years, reasoning with him in trying to find a solution re the sex offenders living under the bridge. We know that eventually the Dept Of Probation will try and place other probationers under the bridge, so were working on that issue as well. To those who have lambasted Mr Book, (and you know who you are) tuck your little tail under your hind legs and scamper away!

Help my brother out!

Somebody help my "twin brother" please! He needs a girlfriend desperately. He is a little spacey looking and I was thinking, Are there any single blind women out there we could fix him up with? He lives in a nice house too! He is a little chubby w/rough beard and he smokes and I wonder, what are the odds we could hook him up with a blind overweight woman who smokes?

She would have to be "fixed" (not able to have kids) cause my twin is a...ah...hmm...registered sex offender, but otherwise, A swell guy! He tends to hold grudges and lie, Ah but he is sooo sweet!

He plays the "christian card" about how he is saved etc but has often instead of forgiving someone, has called them ungodly names and dragged them thru the mud. He is rather a hypocrite in saying one thing and doing another..but still he is a sweet guy!

My bro is OCD but is still a sweet guy!

Now that I've thought more about my bro, what are the odds we could find him an blind, overweight, smoking & hypocrital woman who has OCD? Never mind. He should stay Single!

Dr. Fred Berlin

http://www.reformsexoffenderlaws.org/index.php

NATIONAL RSOL CONFERENCE - July 10 & ll, two sites, Boston and Texas, linked by video. Keynote speakers in Boston, national experts, Dr. Fred Berlin and Dr. Jerome Miller, in Texas, Atty. William Habern. Other experts and panels on issues of importance for sex offender law reform. A closed conference, only for RSOL signatories and non-signatory participants, and RSOL affiliated state group participants.


I have been researching Dr. Berlin's background and it is not stellar. I will provide link info that will allow you to draw your own opinion as I continue to research.

http://theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/22SxSo/PnSx/Knsy/Reismn%20vMcHu02.htm

> Dr. Judith Reisman

Ongoing sexual abuse of children were not reported while under treatment!


http://www.catholicculture.org/news/features/index.cfm?recnum=20603

What is it that they have advised the American bishops to do?

Reisman: Well clearly they advised the bishops that it's perfectly all right to send these pederasts and pedophiles back into the community and back into service as priests. They--the bishops--took the advice of the medical professionals, when they returned these men to their roles as priests. The professionals didn't say to them, "Look, this man is a pederast. He will continue raping children as long as he is near children he will be raping them. Our advice is don't ever let him go near a child." No; they never said that. If they had said that, I can assure you, every one of them would be hauling out their records right now and plastering them in front of every newspaper.

Both Dr. Berlin and Dr. Money, however, have made it very clear in writing that they would never turn in a pederast or pedophile to the authorities, whether they were sexually sodomizing 100 boys or 1,000 boys, or boys or girls, or combinations thereof. Now I cannot prove it until we have legal discovery, but I would assume that these experts, if they told the bishops they were not going to report these men, certainly wouldn't have done it on the basis of saying that they knew these men were going to continue sodomizing boys.


So far, I do not like Dr. Berlin's flippant attitude. I'm all for therapy for sex offenders because it does work if the offender is open and willing to change but regardless of this fact, there still must be legal consequences in order to protect the victim and future victims. To treat an offender while abuse is ongoing, its maddening and demented for a "professional" like Dr. Berlin to care for the perpetrator over the victim(s). I sure can understand WHY the RSOL invited him to attend this conference, cause birds of a feather flock together!

for informational purposes only?

http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2009/07/ma-first-annual-reform-sex-offender_18.html

NOTE: This is for informational purposes only, and we do not necessarily agree with everything posted below.


So said Mike (ZMan) Gregg over at sex offender issues. What I'd like to know is, what does Mike disagree with?

Look at Mike's "blog roll" on his blog and you can see he has several RSOL websites listed. I disagree with the RSOL's tactics of infiltrating groups like SOSEN, because of the pro pedophile agenda contained within the RSOL old school membership.

I'm wary of the red quote mentality and Mike will need to "change" awhole lot more before I am convinced that he is sincere in finally realizing how wrong it is to promote pedophile groups like the RSOL that has links to the NAMBLA/North American Man/Boy Love Association, A group of known pedohiles who want age consent laws discarded, So they can molest "at will", and just how does that really protect children, anyway?

See photo at right side >

He is my hero! He told me several weeks ago, that I wasn't doing a good enough job in exposing the hypocrisy within the sex offender advocacy movement. He told me I needed to get tougher or quit! He told me that if I didn't attempt to hold SOSEN or ROAR accountable, no one else would. I followed his advice and hope he approves of my new bold tough guy attitude!

Its not about being mean or seeking revenge but about presenting the whole unadulterated truth and exposing the underlying corruption that many do not see or ever hear about. Now, let me say that not "all" members at SOSEN (Sex Offender Solutions & Education Network) or ROAR For Freedom, are corrupt but are being deceived by leadership who use them as "pawns" in order to achieve devilish goals that will in the long run, hurt children. The prime example being the RSOL Petition. A big heart felt "thank you" to Mr Hero for opening MY eyes!

Julia Tuttle Causeway sex offenders

Over 80 registered sex offenders live under this bridge in Miami Florida. Unless one has big bucks to live elsewhere, Then these offenders are "forced" to live under this bridge.

Well, not really forced as some would have you to believe other wise! These sex offenders have "chosen" to live under this bridge. There is a big difference here and in case any of you aren't aware, not all the sex offenders living under the bridge, are on "probation", they are free to MOVE to another county but they want to stay near Miami to be near family. Wouldn't it be wiser to move to another less restrictive county where you could get proper housing, a better job and eventually a vehicle which will allow you to visit your loved ones more frequently in Miami?

I remember several years how Barbara Spragg worked hard to get these sex offenders moved to another county into real housing. Some of these bridge dwelling offenders said "no thank you" and decided to remain under the bridge. They wanted help to a certain extent but refused to sacrifice living under a bridge in order to better serve their own selfish needs. I donated $ to help Barbara help these sex offenders and yes, I was ticked off at the time, by the selfishness.

I've no problem helping them but I want to see positive RESULTS! I don't want to try and help sex offenders who won't better themselves. Its tough being a registered sex offender in Florida and maybe tougher because some have chosen to live under a bridge but lets remember, its a willful choice, not a forced one. I tend to agree with what this blogger said elsewhere:

"If I was forced to live under this bridge, by the state, I'd be up on the bridge every day, protesting with a sign "ALMOST 100 SEX OFFENDERS, FORCED TO LIVE UNDER THIS BRIDGE, BY THE STATE. THINK ABOUT HOW THAT AFFECTS THE ECONOMY AND WHAT VACATIONERS MAY THINK ABOUT MIAMI, ALL THANKS TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA!"

And why haven't these sex offenders protested on their own? Picketing might draw attention. How about a hunger strike, that would get the attention of the national news media and Florida real quick!

Of course, the above blogger is wrong on two accounts, None are "forced" and we can't blame the Florida State government because these offenders did in fact commit illegal sex crimes and they chose to live in Miami. It is easy to blame the "State" or Miami officials but if these men hadn't of committed these crimes, I doubt they'd be living under a bridge...now!

3 year old Riley Fox

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/15/grace.coldcase.riley/index.html


Her body was found later that day in a river in Forked Creek, Illinois, just 4 miles from the family's home. She'd been bound and gagged with duct tape, raped and drowned, according to the Will County Sheriff's Office and the coroner's report.

If "you" signed the RSOL Petition (see link) or you promote such garbage at your sex offender issues blogspot, or promote it at your local activist group like SOSEN or ROAR, it means you don't give a shit about a innocent fragile little three year old child who was abducted out of her home, brutally raped, bound and gagged and thrown into a river to die.

What, how dare I accuse you of such you say? Well, if you signed or support the Reform Sex Offender Laws Petition, Then it is obvious that you care more for a murdering child rapist than the victim! I have to ask, didn't you fucking idiots READ the damn petition before you signed it???

This raping murderer has yet to be apprehended. Say he was already arrested/jailed. According to the RSOL Petition, he would have more rights than the victim, as seen here:

http://www.reformsexoffenderlaws.org/statement.php

Stop public vilification and demonization of sex offenders.

That means we couldn't say anything "negative" about this child raping murdering scum! we would have to say nice things like, He's remorseful and can be rehabilitated. He deserves a "second chance".

Abolish all laws that provide the death penalty or life in prison without parole for sex offenders.

He would get maybe 10+ years or so who knows but he would never serve life w/o parole or get the death penalty for such a vicious devilish crime.

Abolish all life-time civil commitment for sex offenders.

He would be entitled to a "second chance" in life cause he is remorseful and got "help" in prison!

Abolish all provisions of state and Federal sex offender registries that publicly shame offenders.

This child raping murdering piece of scum would be able to live anywhere undetected by unsuspecting neighbors! Why he could even go work at a kindergarten and be around OTHER three year old girls.

Help sex offenders re-enter society.

Yup, even child raping murdering scumbags.

Support broad sex education for children, and empower them to make their own decisions and stand up for their rights.
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I'm left wondering why people like Linda Pherson (SOSEN CEO) or Betty Price (ROAR Founder) signed this petition? I know both of their husbands are convicted sex offenders but neither commited such a vicious child raping murdering crime and yet, here they both support a petition that applies to "all" registered sex offenders.

And look at Micheal Gregg (ZMan @sexoffenderissuesblogspot), He didn't sign the petition but he nevertheless supports the RSOL and gives numerous links to the RSOL website. This is fucking weird behavior! Did he sign under a different name? Of course Mike has been calling for the abolishment of sex offender laws for years now and to think that he and Linda and Betty and numerous other petition signers don't give a shit about lil 3 yr old girls being abducted,raped and murdered!

Yup, fucking weird behavior.

Two arrested/charged with Murder!

http://www.pnj.com/article/20090713/NEWS01/907130326/1006/NEWS01

The Sheriff believes a total of "8" people were involved in committing this murder! I hope Florida has more room on death row to accommodate this thugs.

Local Heroes Murdered

http://www.pnj.com/article/20090711/NEWS01/907110322/1006

The Billings were a local couple that had adopted twelve special needs children. Mr and Mrs Billings were gunned down in their home Thursday night.

This is so sad! I live here in Pensacola and can only hope the murderers are brought to justice soon. Please keep these children in your prayers!

Zman's 2nd rebuttal

Here it is:

And his latest rant for 07/09/2009, claiming we were "friends!" We were NEVER friends, except in your own mind. And he claims that by me posting another sex offenders registry info on my blog, that in some way I was breaking the law. No sir, it's not illegal to post unaltered info on any web page, even if it wasn't you, and it did not put anyone in danger, like you seem to believe. And he "claims" I am mad for him pointing out that I link to RSOL web site. No, I am not mad, and I'll link to them again. (http://www.reformsexoffenderlaws.org/), but just because I do so, doesn't mean I agree with what they may say, period. If anyone at this site is doing something illegal, then they should be arrested, and I never said otherwise. You been hanging around the anti's too long, and are sounding just like them now.

Any way, this is all I will be posting on this blog item. I am not wasting my time on talking or dealing with someone who is apparently unstable.


Oh my. We were "never" friends huh? I guess he was playing with me but thats okay. Mike claims to be a christian who reads the Bible regularly and I wonder if he will able to sleep to night with a clear conscience?

Several people have told me to post his emails and let his own words hang him but I am not going to do that because I see no value in doing so.

Mike posts the following comment under his latest attack:

"Mr. K thinks just because I post links on my blog, that I support them, that is insane. I guess that means I support all the news organizations, videos, blogs, web sites and everything else I have linked to. Absurd! I despise NAMBLA and everything they stand for, period!

Mike does more than posts, he endorses them! Interesting that Mike offers NO disclaimers/warnings alerting his viewers that NAMBLA has ties to RSOL/Reform Sex Offender Laws but Mike states he "despises" NAMBLA, then why endorse a group like RSOL that has connections to NAMBLA/B4UAct? Kind of hard to figure out what to believe at Sexoffenderissuesblogspot!

Mike told me that other day he believed no one should be "thrashed" or held accountable when they screw up. Interesting Mike had no problem Thrashing me with his vigilante doings. Sleep well my friend.

ZMan's Rebuttal to the "truth" of this blog

Z just posted this at SexOffenderIssues.blogspot.com website:


We do not like doing this, but TSand (real name "deleted") has been harassing ZMan for almost 3 years now, and he continually posts other stuff about many other people and organizations to further harass and harm them or their reputations, which is evident on his blog. He had another blog, but it was hijacked! So, as much as I hate to do this, here is his Florida registry details, which I am not posting to harass him, or anything else, just to show who he is. He has many email addresses and aliases, and I wonder if the Florida DOC knows about all of them? TSand, this is my personal "cease and desist" reply, and I am seriously thinking about filing a harassment order and lawsuit against you. Please stop what you are doing! I have asked you many times, and I am sick of your crap! If you do not stop, I will contact the sheriff in Florida and let them know about this, and file a complaint with them. I have the many threats made by you, in emails, web sites, forums, etc. So if you feel lucky, then file a lawsuit.
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Oh pleeze! I don't have any grudges against Mike other than the sad fact he has linked info to pro pedophile originizations like RSOL/NAMBLA/B4UAct. I am not angry with Mike but very disappointed in his behavior of late. Yes, once upon a time Mike and I were friends. I was the one who first invited him to join Sohopeful. Years later we had a falling out and warred for awhile. I approached him about a year or so ago and apologized for all the past bullshit and we becames FRIENDS again. I have even honored him on this blog and the past WordPress blog. (see * link at bottom)

Yes, we recently had a falling out because he falsely accused me of something that wasn't true. I tried to reason with him but he wasn't interested. Mike is just as guilty in harassing me in the past and I have the emails to prove it also. Back then he was so pissed off, he decided to join in the ill repute behavior that AZU-Absolute Zero United is so infamous for, to become a "vigilante".

Mike tried to expose my "real identity" on his blogspot website. My email is jhnjoneson@yahoo.com. Mike researched the FLORIDA sex offender registry and found that was a "John Jones" sex offender. Mike jumped the gun and posted a direct link to this John fella, "but" (its a terrible but too) I wasn't THIS registered sex offender!

Mike in his rage, put this John fella in danger because at the time, there were many out there who were out to "get me". SOSEN once upon a time put an illegal "bounty" on my head and plotted to get me arrested! It didn't work out and I'm still free:-)

ZMan's (Mike) posting the John Jones info was in direct violation of Florida Criminal law! A first degree misdemeanor punishable by (1) year in the county jail. How did I handle this vigilante behavior?

I immediately contacted Mike and told him I was NOT this John Jones registered sex offender. Mike ignored me. I then ran over to SOSEN to a staff member who "personally" knew me and asked him to contact Mike and inform him I was NOT this John Jones. He did so and Mike then removed the link.

Did I seek to have ZMan arrested? Nope. I considered him redeemable and I forgave him! I, my Sosen Staff friend, Linda Pherson and Cheryl Griffith, We worked as a group through emails to reconcile this serious breach of trust. And yes, there emails to prove this whole situation and a screen shot of the John Jones link at sexoffenderissues blogspot as evidence.


There a big difference between harassment and exposing the false lies of associating with pro pedophile groups like RSOL. I am big in doing DEEP research before I post a thread topic on this blog. I don't just up and post unfactual comments, I research! Mike is mad because I exposed his linking to RSOL which has pro pedophile connections! Hey, I tried to reason with him and convince him otherwise but he refused to listen even though Mike knows what I state is the truth and nothing but the truth. There is no slander, libel or harassment on my part here. I really thought Mike might see the light and disavow any connection with pro pedo's but obviously not when he would rather attack "me" instead! Is Mike pro pedo? I have no idea if this is true or not. I will not accuse him of such but I do accuse him of endorsing a group like RSOL being linked to NAMBLA. That is truth, not libel.

Mike, If you feel the need to attack rather than being truthful, then go ahead and do so but it is the vigilante hyprocisy attitude that will come back to haunt you in the long run. You say your not posting "my" registry info to harass but in reality you are, but so what, isn't that what the vigilante AZU folks say as well ?

I will never "cease and desist" in exposing the truth and nothing but the truth!


* Link:

http://roarfortruth.blogspot.com/2009/02/zman-true-warrior-dedicated-to-cause.html

B4U-Act

http://www.b4uact.org/principles.htm



At B4U-Act, we believe that the following guiding principles are crucial when mental health professionals work with minor-attracted people:

1. DEVELOPMENT. We understand that the attraction to children or adolescents is both sexual and emotional, and that individuals do not choose to have these feelings. People who are attracted to minors usually recognize their feelings in adolescence or young adulthood, and feel that they are very different from other persons.

2. INDIVIDUALITY. We realize that other than their sexual and emotional feelings toward minors, minor-attracted people do not have any particular characteristics in common. They vary as do all people, and it is inaccurate to claim that all or most minor-attracted people have certain beliefs or personalities, exhibit psychopathology or specific personality disorders, or engage in particular behaviors. We do not assume that they abuse children, that they are prone to deception or violence, or that their sexual feelings are more compulsive or uncontrollable than other people’s. We see clients as individuals, not as a category.

3. HUMANITY. We believe that persons who are sexually attracted to children can be contributing members of their communities and that they "deserve to be treated with respect". All clients should be treated in a caring, non-judgmental, and respectful manner. We see minor-attracted people as whole human beings, not as dangerous criminals or “deviants.” Therefore, we advocate the use of supportive therapeutic goals, assumptions, and approaches. Clients voluntarily seeking treatment should not be pressured or coerced to accept treatment modalities that they find objectionable.

4. NEEDS. We recognize that like all people, individuals who are attracted to minors sometimes want mental health services to deal with issues unrelated to their sexuality, but they are reluctant to seek help because they feel they cannot be completely honest as a result of their sexual feelings. Some minor-attracted people seek services to help them deal with issues that result from society’s negative reactions to their sexual feelings. Others seek assistance and support in finding satisfying lives and relationships while living within the law. We believe that in all these cases, clients should have access to compassionate and confidential services that meet their needs and that help them feel safe to talk openly about their sexual feelings.

5. CONFIDENTIALITY. We recognize that laws require the reporting of illegal sexual behavior and plans for such behavior, but they do not require the reporting of sexual feelings and desires. We appreciate the danger which could be posed to a client if his employer, family, friends, community, or anyone else found out about his sexual feelings. Thus, such information should not be divulged to persons beyond a provider's staff. At the first session, or as soon as attractions to minors surface in a subsequent session, the therapist should inform the client exactly who on the staff, if anyone, will be told about his sexual feelings. The therapist should also provide the client with a clear statement of the cases under which illegal behavior, suspicion of such behavior, or plans for such behavior would have to be reported to the authorities.

6. STIGMA. We recognize the severe stigma directed against minor-attracted people by the media, politicians, law enforcement officials, and some mental health professionals. We oppose the perpetuation of false stereotypes and the use of language that instills fear in the public, fails to promote understanding, and ignores the humanity of minor-attracted people. We realize that stigma and stereotypes force minor-attracted people to remain in hiding and prevent those who could benefit from mental health services from receiving them. We do not believe this serves the interests of children, minor-attracted people, or society in general. Therefore, providers have an obligation within their profession and community to speak up and confront stereotype-perpetuating statements made by professional colleagues, family members, friends, and the media. Providers need to educate professionals and the larger community regarding persons sexually attracted to children or adolescents.

7. EDUCATION. Providers have an obligation to offer and engage in continuing education and professional growth activities on an ongoing basis in order to promote and develop a more accurate understanding of individuals who are sexually attracted to minors and to improve services for them. Such activities should challenge popular stereotypes rather than reinforce them, and portray the full humanity of minor-attracted people.
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Reform Sex Offenders Laws (RSOL) gives a "link" to B4U-Act and do you have any idea WHY the RSOL would link to the B4U-Act website? Is there a underlying connection related to pro pedophilia websites who promote illegal SEX with under aged children?


If you said yes, you are correct. I have already exposed RSOL's connections with the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). Are you wondering who started B4U-Act, We'll, let me tell you!


B4U was started by "Michael Melsheimer". He is a pedophile and member of "boy chat", A well known pro pedo group of individuals who think under aged sex with children should be "legal". Additional info:

Michael Melsheimer, AKA Lek, is a convicted sex offender and out pedophile by his own admission. He states that he's been "out" to his real life community since 1986 -- when he was released from prison. He's also stated that he discovered his sexual affection for boys at age twelve and as he grew older young boys remained the object of his attraction. He says he realized from the start that he had to keep his desires secret.

Even though Lek was caught and served prison time for sexually assaulting two young boys when he was the director of the Camden YMCA, he still continues to be a long-standing member of such pedophile forums as "BoyChat, Common-Ground and GirlChat" (three Pro pedo groups).

Unfortunately, that's not enough for Lek; he's also serving as the director of operations for a Maryland non-profit organization established in 2003 called B4U-ACT, which receives annual funding from the Baltimore Mental Health Systems. As disturbing as that is (receiving government monies for such a cause) even more disturbing is what B4U-ACT publicly states on its Web site:

If you're a minor-attracted person:

You may be looking for mental health services to deal with anxiety, depression, anger, or other factors either unrelated to your sexuality or resulting from society's stereotypes and reactions to your sexual feelings. Or you may be wondering how to live life fully and stay within the law. But you may feel you can't trust therapists because they don't understand you, they'll judge you, or they'll report your feelings to others. We help minor-attracted people find mental health professionals that they can trust. That way they can develop ways of coping and consider how their actions affect themselves and others before they react to their situation or to society's attitudes about them.

Infamous quote by the B4U-Act founder:

"Boys are great! Loving boys is great! Sex is great! Men and boys having sex together is great! It's the culture that is offensive, not man/boy love!"
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There you have it...aka...the whole truth! RSOL has connections with two PRO PEDO originizations and several other RSO Sex offender adovacy such as SOSEN and ROAR and Sex Offender Issues blogspot.

What is sad is, I don't see the RSO groups disavowing any connection with RSOL/NAMBLA/B4UAct. Joining forces with pedophiles is a terrible terrible shame! Who will it eventually hurt, the Children!


Notes:

http://www.reformsexoffenderlaws.org/links/

The RSOL "support" HotLine

http://www.reformsexoffenderlaws.org/actionitems.php#0024


hotline@thesupporthotline.org

The Support Hotline is an all volunteer project staffed by private
citizens. We are not professionals or lawyers. We are people deeply
concerned about the damage being done to our families, our children and
our country by the nation's sex offender laws. We are working to change
those laws.

The goal of this hotline is to support people affected by those laws
with information and ideas - or just listening to what people have to
say about what's happening to them. Given how bad the laws and the media
are, we may not be able to be of much help. But we will try.


This "hotline" was started by Reform Sex Offender Laws (RSOL). They adovcate overturning ALL sex offender restrictive laws. RSOL has close ties to NAMBLA:

"North American Man/Boy Love"

NAMBLA wants these laws overturned, so they can have sex with under aged teenage boys and not have to worry about being criminally prosecuted for child rape.

I recently asked Mr ZMan over at "Sex Offender Issues" Why he was posting RSOL info at his blogspot? He said this:

" I never said I support RSOL, now did I. I link to them, yes, but that doesn't mean I "support" them."

Confused? I sure am! He links to several RSOL websites and even has the RSOL Hotline posted on the forum he recently set up at his blogspot. The confusing thing is, Mr Z is quite AWARE of the RSOL link to NAMBLA. I want the sex offenders laws revised also, but I'm NOT going to join with a group that has ties to NAMBLA in order to try and achieve that goal! In order to be fair to Mr Z, I will say that he didn't sign the RSOL Petition like some other sex offender adovcates did (SOSEN/ROAR). But still, He freely links to RSOL and that in my opinion, is an ENDORSEMENT. That basicially means you "support" their goals. I thought Mr ZMan would wise up and realise how unwise it is to associate with a group that is linked to NAMBLA..."pedophiles" but I guess I'm shit out of luck!

Has it come to this now that we must join forces with the pro "pedophile" orginizations in order to acheive our goals of getting the sex offender laws revised? Where is the common sense? This yellow belly coward liberism will come back to bite us!


Credits:

sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com
Sex Offender Support & Support Network (SOSEN)
http://www.roarforfreedom.com/ (notice the name change @ link)

Note:

If Mr ZMan wants to post a "rebuttal", I will post it here but keep it civil.

NAMBLA exposed

http://nambla.org/welcome.htm


Clink the link and read all about these pedophiles who molest/rape under aged boys. NAMBLA’s website consists of disingenuous pro-pedophile propaganda intended to mislead others into believing their claims that molestation is not really harmful to young boys.

Many of NAMBLA’s members have been jailed for conspiracies, child molestation, and trafficking in child pornography; it is anyone’s guess how many additional crimes may have been committed, as many incidents of child molestation are never reported.

NAMBLA is a group of pedophiles and pedophile activists who seek to abolish age of consent laws, and encourage legislation which allows adults to have sex with children.

The following are just a very few examples:


In 1997, two NAMBLA members stalked, kidnapped, raped, tortured and murdered a 10-year-old boy, hours after accessing NAMBLA’s website from a public library.

In 2005, seven NAMBLA members were arrested in a San Diego sting operation; each of the men had paid hundreds of dollars to an undercover FBI agent to arrange a trip to Mexico to have sex with boys.

NAMBLA ‘steering committee’ member David Groat and NAMBLA associate Mark Morgan were imprisoned in Thailand, for running an orphanage in Bangkok that was really a front for a child pornography and child sex operation. Nicknamed “Club Ped”, because according to police, "If you went there, he [Morgan] would provide you with a young boy”, the orphanage was frequented by approximately 15-20 NAMBLA members and associates.

Now-former priest Paul Shanley was arrested in May 2002 for 10 counts of child rape and six counts of indecent assault and battery; the victims stated that they were just six years old when Shanley began raping them.

In 2003, elementary school teacher Thomas Reeves was convicted for multiple felony counts of sexually assaulting children who were his students. Reeves was one of NAMBLA’s founding members.
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I recently exposed several SOSEN/ROAR members who have signed the RSOL petition. RSOL has several NAMBLA members who signed this petition. RSOl is pro NAMBLA!

I can understand if Linda Pherson (SOSEN CEO) and the others who signed said petition weren't AWARE at the time they were aligning along side of these pedophiles but now they know and I have to ask why linda or Betty or Lee Lee aren't demanding their names be REMOVED from the petition?

Pro pedo allies are worth it? I think not.

tsand's twin brother is wrong!

My "twin brother" over in Georgia told me recently that I have damaged "the cause" by attacking such sex offender advocacy groups like SOSEN or ROAR. I have to disagree with that kind of thinking. My bro thinks I should NOT thrash them when they screw up! Therein lies the problem, No one will attempt to hold the leadership at SOSEN/ROAR "accountable" for these ongoing acts of stupidity repeatedly committed.

So, who ends up getting screwed when the leadership fucks up? "The cause" does! Then the "members" get screwed because they lose faith and don't know who to trust anymore. If the members object or raise legitimate questions, they end up branded as "troublemakers" and get banned!

People like my twin bro think the leadership problems ought to be "ignored" and NO criticism rendered period. But really, Where there is no accountable but chaos, Then how in the world can SOSEN or ROAR ever be held in high regard? It can't! Every year it seems, There is a NEW scandal over at the SOSEN or ROAR leadership. Leaders get kicked out, eventually the "new" leaders plot revenge against OTHER leadership and kick em out and hijack the groups. I ask, is that not senseless?

Look at these past scandals:

SOHOPEFUL:

Big fight and members leave to start SOSEN. Sohopeful issues a public statement calling these ex members a "radical extremist splinter" organization!
(see link below) Sohopeful eventually closes down because Jim Freeman participates in an illegal internet child porn operation.

Sosen:

People like Linda Pherson and Cheryl Griffiths engage in a plot to kick out the then SOSEN CEO Shirley Lowry and hijack SOSEN. Years of turmoil are the direct result of this evil plot. Eventually, Other leadership start fighting (Cheryl against Linda) and more leaders get banned from SOSEN.

ROAR:

CEO Betty Price gets kicked out by Harvardphd (Julian Godwin) just two months ago! Julian is under Florida criminal investigation re this matter among other matters against the law. Plenty of mishaps demonstrated at ROAR over the years with lies and slander spreaded everywhere. ROAR leadership conspired with SOSEN leadership to cover up Jim Freeman's child porn arrest. Julian BANNED up to over 100 ROAR forum "members" after ousting Betty Price and her husband Mike.Now we have Leadership joining forces with pedophile groups such as RSOL-Reform Sex Offender Laws. Aligning with known pedophiles? Senseless!


My bro wants to make "me" (tsand) out as the big trouble making bozo who damages "the cause"! Really? I'm not responsible for these ongoing repeated fuck ups at SOSEN or ROAR and he knows this, yet so easy to accuse me otherwise. Make tsand the scapegoat instead! Nope, not even close. I played no part in those fuck ups!

My twin has a real nice sex offender advocacy blog over at BlogSpot. He sees ALL the crap going on but he has NEVER criticized SOSEN/ROAR leadership. He thinks it hurts "our cause" if one steps up to hold these idiots accountable for their ongoing bullshit. I disagree and I refuse to be silent! Stop the bullshit and I'll shut up then!

Oh by the way, My twin is the short chubby one who smokes whereas I am the tall handsome twin of the family. Enough said! :-)


Link:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/02/prweb208443.htm

SOSEN: "Pro Pedo" ?

"Sex Offender Support and Education Network"


Are the members at SOSEN supporters of pedophilia? I must ask because they have aligned themselves with a pro pedo group called RSOL/Reform Sex Offender Laws.

RSOL wants to abolish ALL sex offender registries among other things. Here are the goals of the RSOL:
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1. Abolish all provisions of state and Federal sex offender registries that publicly shame offenders. There should be no internet or other public posting of the identity, photograph, address, workplace or personal information of any offender, nor should this information be available to the public at police stations or registry offices. In cases of genuinely violent sex crimes, especially against young children, and with a specific finding of a likelihood to re-offend, registration "may" be required, but information will be shared only among police officials, or if a court rules it appropriate, with institutions serving children or others who might be vulnerable to abuse. Strong penalties should be levied against police or others privy to the registration information who violate the privacy of the offenders.

2. Abolish all life-time civil commitment for sex offenders who have completed prison sentences and/or parole and probation. In cases of violent offenses and specific findings of a likelihood to re-offend, carefully constructed court hearings, with medical advice and full due process, should determine if the person may be further incarcerated, and then only for a short time and with regular review. The ultimate goal of all measures aimed at sex offenders should be their return to the community when they are not likely to re-offend.

3. Stop public vilification and demonization of sex offenders. Oppose the use in the media or by public officials of obviously pejorative language with regard to offenders. Label only actually violent acts as violent crimes - define violence simply and logically as a physical attack or threat that causes real harm. Use of the term "pedophile" should be extremely limited and accurate. Children should be defined as persons under the age of puberty.

4. De-criminalize all consensual sexual activities among teenagers. Stop all required sex offender registration for minors.

5. Abolish all laws that provide the death penalty or life in prison without parole for sex offenders.

6. Support broad sex education for children, and empower them to make their own decisions and stand up for their rights.

7. Provide accurate information and support valid research about sex offender characteristics and recidivism rates.

8. Help sex offenders re-enter society by abolishing measures which make it difficult for them to find a place to live and a decent job. Encourage support groups for sex offenders, including help with finding housing, employment, and effective treatment, before their release and afterward.

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Are you aware than numerous supporters at RSOL are members of NAMBLA? That stands for the North American Man/Boy Love Association, A homosexual group of "adult" men who advocate consensual sex with UNDERAGE children!

If you signed the RSOL Petition, does that mean you support under age sex with children? Only you would know the answer to that question. Here is that petition with the signers names openly displayed:

http://www.reformsexoffenderlaws.org/statement.php#signatories

recognize any names on the petition? Why is it that these SOSEN members would align with known pro pedopiles? Could it be that the pedos have infiltrated and influenced the SOSEN leadership? Is it really worthwhile to align yourself with the devil?

I agree that the sex offender laws need to be changed in certain situations. I think offenders like James Duncan & John Couey should be executed. But I don't believe I need to align myself along side of pedophiles who support under age sex with children, Do you?


Well Known signers:

Linda Peherson (SOSEN CEO)
Betty Price (ROAR)
LeeLee Lawless (SOSEN)
Betty Schneider
Jan Kruska (Operation Awareness)
Jackie Spurling (SOSEN)
Rev. David Hess (SOHOPEFUL)
Paul Shannon (NAMBLA)
Bob Chatelle (NAMBLA)
Bill Andriette (NAMBLA)
SEXOFFENDERISSUES (though not a signer but a huge supporter of RSOL at sexoffenderisuesblogspotcom)

Another "Honorable" Judge

His Honor Judge Ian Dearden. You may have heard of this folk musician, civil libertarian champion who is now a District Judge in Queensland.

His Honor had been an executive member of the Queensland Council for Civil Liberties - an Australian version of the ACLU for 20 years and the president for 11.

He recently stated:


""There is no place in our community for a vigilante approach"


Judge Dearden despises "vigilantes" who cowardly take the law into their own hands! Recently such a coward assaulted a "sex offender" in Queensland and will now stand before a Judge who despises vigilantism. The coward faces "life" in prison for brutally beating up a convicted sex offender. I bet this viggie coward will cry in court and beg His Honor not to send him to prison! Vigilantes CRY like a baby when they get caught:) Hey dude, suck it up and face your punishment like a big boy!

More info on the Judge and an email address to contact him and tell him to WE will not ever tolerate vigilant injustice!



http://www.sclqld.org.au/qjudiciary/profiles/idearden/

Courthouse.beenleigh@justice.qld.gov.au

Cnr Kent and James Street
PO Box 383, Beenleigh 4207
Beenleigh Qld 4207

Telephone: (07) 3884 7512



Credits:

AZUstitches77 (the "nice" one)